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flag California Governor Gavin Newsom discussed governance and politics with conservative podcaster Ben Shapiro in a rare cross-ideological talk on January 15, 2026.

flag California Governor Gavin Newsom appeared on conservative commentator Ben Shapiro’s podcast on January 15, 2026, in a high-profile dialogue highlighting cross-ideological exchange. flag The conversation covered state governance, policy challenges, and national political trends, with Shapiro sharing a video clip showing the interview in a car near a homeless person, underscoring social issues. flag Newsom, a Democrat, has previously hosted other conservative figures, reflecting his broader outreach strategy. flag The appearance comes amid speculation about a potential 2028 presidential run, which he has acknowledged as a serious consideration. flag The episode drew significant media attention for its rare bipartisan nature in a polarized climate.

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